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Nice write-up! I use that same motor on my Taig lathe. The only thing I miss about the (GE induction) motor is how quite it was. Did you have to do anything to the spindle on your motor? (My motor had a worm on the end to drive a tach. that I had to cut off.)
No, I did not have to change anything. It has, I think, between 1 and 2 inches of .675" diameter shaft followed by some left-handed thread. I mounted the pulley on the round shaft section, and just left the left-handed thread unused - it does not obstruct anything, so it does not bother me at all.
I have recently bought a lathe [chinese] 11"swing by 30" 1.1kw dc motor varaible speed. brush
This is the first time I am dealing with a dc motor,I have always used ac motors. I can stall this motor by putting both hands on the chuck at,50 rpm,200,rpm,and 500 rpm. The motor will want to "speed up" and the dial shows that too but ,keep applying presure and it stalls. Am I expecting to much? I cannot "fathom" dc. I run it on the "low" setting most of the time but I can still stall it and blow my 10amp fuse. What am I doing wrong? I am NOT electrical . Thanks. Leo.
If you are blowing a 10A fuse, you are obviously pulling more than 10A, at least for a short time. This can be due to a number of reasons. Is your controller capable of driving your DC motor? Is it PWM? What's the feedback mechanism? Does the fuse blow when you stop the motor by hand? The current is the highest when the motor is loaded, and is at really slow (or zero) RPM. By stalling the motor you could be pushing the motor beyond what it's designed for.
On a different, but related note, if you were to think of your motor and power supply as a simple DC circuit, there's more than just current that you'd have to take into account. If you have a 1.1kw motor, and a 10A fuse, you'd have to have at least 110V to drive the motor at full power before the fuse blows. Is the power supply capable of supplying that much? It's no small feat.
I recently purchased two of the Argord motors to use on my Taig micro-mill and my Lathemaster 8x14 lathe. However, I can't seem to find any wiring diagrams for the motors, and have very little experience in this area. I will be using a Danfoss Cycletrol 15O controller, and am not sure how to connect the motor's 4 wires despite hours of web research. All of the articles and diagrams I've found deal with motors with two wires.
Can you provide some guidance, or direction to a site that can? Thanks.
I finally took the motor apart yesterday, and the solution became obvious, especially given the "thermal switch" verbiage on the motor label. The two blue wires are for a thermistor that provides protection against overheating.
Once I figured that out, I simply connected the blue thermistor wires in series to one of the wires for the power circuit (using the connectors that were already on the wires). In hindsight, I shouldn't have had to take the motor apart to deduce the solution as I've been through the thermistor issue with home appliances. However, one of the controllers I purchased has separate terminals for "field" wires, which together with my lack of experience with dc motors introduced just enough confusion to complicate my reasoning process. While I know these Argord motors are permanent magnet rather than wound, and my online research indicated field connections should therefore not be required, I didn't want to end up destroying a motor or controller.
I just put one of the Argord motors onto my Taig lathe and am about to get another one for the mill. I'm using one of the Surplus Center controllers (#11-2449) that has no field outputs-- just Blue and Red (switching those through a DPDT switch allows reversing) and it works fine. Thanks for the info on the blue wires; I just left them loose.
FWIW, to cut the custom pulley, I bored a piece of 1.5" AL bar to the spindle diamater and then just drove a 60-degree threading V-bit from a 'brazed carbide" lathe tool set straight in. Not the prettiest thing, but it's working great after a little cleanup.
i want to purchase a taig machine on ebay. what was the motor size and model that you bought from surplus center. i like the machine but that spindle is gonna be a problem. the item is listed on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Taig-cnc-mill-4-axis-milling-router-engraver-machine_W0QQitemZ260083457936QQihZ016QQcategoryZ12584QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem . let me know what your thought are and any more ideas you might have. keep in mind that i know only a little about motors and wireing.
thanks for your time Ron
Surplus center has 2.5 HP motors for both 110 and 220 volts. I don't have the exact part number, but those are treadmill motors, run for under $40 and are quite lightweight.
I wanted to say thanks for the inspiration to use one of these motors and a Dc controller. I bought mine from the surplus Center. I have limited the voltage to 95 volts and just run a test sample. I was amazed.. normally with the 1/3hp motor the Taig mill came with I was restricted to 1mm deep cuts in aluminium and 150mm min. I ran the spindle at 4300 rpm at 95v and did 2 test samples, milling with 1/4" cutter to a depth of 15mm at 200mm min. The first part was a simple goround a square in 2mm increments which it managed fine. The second test was a pocketed circle 15mm deep and that was in 3mm cuts. Again it managed it with no fuss. The motor might need a cooling fan on large jobs though.
Thanks again
what input did you use and how did you configure Mach 2. I am using Mach 2 and would like to reference spindle speed
Thank You
Input for the tachometer? I can't remember off the top of my head which one I used -- there are several inputs available on the parallel port. Some are dedicated input pins; others tan be used for input or output. I picked a dedicated input one. This is well documented in multiple places on the internet.
The input is either pulled toward V+ or ground depending on whether the sensor is next to a magnet or not. Mach2 can read such signal. You can configure that in the "Ports and Pins" menu. My answer is pretty general, but I am not entirely sure what exactly you are asking. If you rephrase your question to be more specific, I may be able to give you more info. |
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